ATTENTION: Making Goal Sigs is Infringement.
That’s right. If you code up your own goal sigs for your site, then you ARE STEALING FROM DRAYNOR. I’m amused at the ignorance that sometimes goes on there. They actually believe that the idea of making goal sigs is stealing their idea. Hello, Draynor, guess what? RSBANDB were the first to introduce stats/goal sigs. Do you see us coming to you about it? No. Instead, we continue to do what we do to remain competitive. We don’t sit around and whine. We also don’t send little love notes to Leetscape (the supposed perpetrators who “stole” the goal sig idea) telling them that they need to remake their goal sigs.
Do the goal sigs look similar? Yes.
Leetscape goal signature:

Draynor goal signature:

Is that copyright infringement? No. Because they did not copy Draynor’s exact graphics. Draynor, if I were in your position I wouldn’t whine about this. I’d make new (hopefully better) goal sigs. When it comes down to it, people want something that looks nice. These sigs are just mediocre and you all apparently ripped them from an open source code. Here is an excerpt of what a Draynor mod (who somehow appointed himself as ambassador of Draynor.net) sent the admin of Leetscape:
Draynor.net Mod:
Hello, I’m a moderator on the Draynor.net forums and I have noticed the similarity between our signatures. I’m talking about the goal signatures of course. I don’t know if you got the idea from us or if it is complete coincidence, but I was wondering if you could perhaps make a few changes so that they don’t look identical. Draynor.net has had our goal signatures up for a while now and we would really appreciate if you did this.Thank you,
Draynor.net Forums.Admin’s Reply:
They will not be changed as you never made them (Draynor).They are a fully open source created by JazzC, RuneCrypt used them first, then Clooth copied the idea 100% using the code created by Jazz, they’re totally free and come like that as default, sorry but your developers did nothing to develop them at all.
Cheers to you, Leetscape.
Tags: Miscellaneous, Runescape |

July 14th, 2007 at 3:26 pm
Lol. What fags.
that’s all I have to say.
July 14th, 2007 at 3:59 pm
Go die in a ditch, Draynor
July 14th, 2007 at 4:00 pm
What they said. XD
July 14th, 2007 at 4:03 pm
u go gurlfwend
July 14th, 2007 at 6:09 pm
So the people who stole the stolen goal signatures are in trouble with the people who stole them first?
Yay!
July 14th, 2007 at 9:31 pm
Wow, that’s hilarious
However, I hope the fan sites have more links between them and no open rivalry.
And very nice blog! Thank you for writing it!
July 15th, 2007 at 9:10 am
Lmao. Good to see LeetScape standing up for themselves. Teaches Draynor a lesson don’t it?
July 15th, 2007 at 9:46 am
;D I say we all go to Leetscape and congratulate them?
July 15th, 2007 at 9:59 am
Draynor define the word ‘faggot’
July 15th, 2007 at 1:17 pm
draynor suck my balls
July 15th, 2007 at 5:32 pm
The first ever goal signatures I saw were made by RSBandB, and which of the fan sites were made first? Gits. Ah well, LeetScape stood up for themselves so that’s good.
July 15th, 2007 at 5:45 pm
I almost recommend that Draynor members use the Leetscape ones until Clooth decides that he wants to invest his time in fixing that ugly percentage error.
July 16th, 2007 at 12:13 am
RSBANDB>Leetscape>Tip.it>Retards>Draynor
July 16th, 2007 at 11:58 pm
Burnt Joint, your bad at math.
RSBAND-(Leetscape x Tip.it)= Full turd/999999999= Draynor.net
Copy-cat Fucktards. RSBANDB owns.
August 14th, 2007 at 9:34 am
RSB&B will hereby be known as Gayfags, and Leetscape as faggays.
Are all you Gayfags so fucking retarded? I know this comment will be deleted because fuck, you’re a close-minded fuckface.
Those signatures are nearly identical. The only difference is the font and the graphics, both of which are probably because Faggays doesn’t know where to get them.
You’ll notice that the images, the percentage bar, and the text, are all placed in exactly the same co-ordinates and the signatures are exactly the same size.
I think you need to take another look at whatever book you’re reading, because you obviously don’t know what the fuck copyright infringement is.
We didn’t steal from Gayfags and and Faggays did steal from us, because you can tell a difference between ours and Gayfags, but you can see a CLEAR resemblance between Faggays and Draynors.
Stop being so fucking jealous of us.
(also, if this comment isn’t moderated, it will prove that I’m a twelve year old moron who can only call things “gay” and “faggy” and that I have the reading level of a ten year old.)
August 14th, 2007 at 9:36 am
And in addition, where the fuck are you getting this idea that our code is open source? Clooth hand-coded it and I have seen the source. Just because aforementioned Faggays doesn’t know how to code doesn’t mean we don’t.
August 14th, 2007 at 9:41 am
Typical for the local retards to get up themselves and start the swearing and insults again.
If you can’t prove them wrong through a legit argument, just swear, insult and throw a tantrum.
August 14th, 2007 at 9:48 am
Rofl, in normal circumstances..I’d delete this since it’s absolutely vulgar, but this is amusing beyond belief. Is the average age of Draynor.net users 11? 11.5?
August 14th, 2007 at 10:13 am
@Moo: You’re making a big deal over nothing. Our code isn’t open source and we didn’t download it from some fucker. Either Leetscape stole our code and is lying, or aforementioned fucker stole our design (not necessarily our code) and made an open-source version of it, which definitely infringes our license on it.
@Mushroom Queen: Yes, says the person who thinks it’s not copyright infringement unless the two things are exactly the same.
August 14th, 2007 at 1:35 pm
Devlin, Devlin. I just got confirmation about the source code of those stat/goal sigs. Clooth didn’t write them and I saw it for myself. The only reason why I can’t post the link here was because I promised the administrator of Leetscape that I wouldn’t. Yes, JazzC made the original and, yes, Clooth ripped it.
Now, let’s move onto your disturbing definition of copyright infringement. Now, let me ask you.. is it copyright infringement if the original source code was open-source? No.
Congratulation, you’re officially mentally retarded.
August 14th, 2007 at 1:55 pm
I don’t know what kind of mushrooms it is that you’re doing, Queen, but the code we used doesn’t belong to anybody else and isn’t downloadable. If you’re still under the impression that it is, congratulations, you’re official mentally retarded.
And very ugly.
August 14th, 2007 at 2:56 pm
I have yet to see you prove otherwise.
And very ugly? How about you post your pic, hot stuff. If you weigh over 7 stone, I’ll be surprised.
August 15th, 2007 at 4:51 am
I’m not making a big deal out of anything, i just think if you wish to prove her wrong you shouldn’t act like a retard.
You should put up a decent argument over being a child and calling people ugly, lol.
August 15th, 2007 at 5:59 am
@Mushroom queen/Moo: The ugly part was just a conclusion.
Mushroom Queen: I have yet to see you prove that out code is from JazzC. To me that just proves “I heard about it from someone who also stole RuneScape’s homepage, but since I’m jealous of this other website, I’ll just say that they didn’t steal anything else and are actually being legitimate this time.”
August 15th, 2007 at 12:28 pm
Actually, as I just wrote (since you’re obviously having reading troubles) I didn’t “hear” from anyone about the code, I saw it myself. And believe me, the status bar, the background, the skill icons..all in the same places and nearly the same colours. How about I give you hint, if you can find the other screename that JazzC uses online, you’ll be able to find the code. In fact, it’ll be the top site in Google.
August 16th, 2007 at 6:17 pm
How about this for a bombshell?
http://cruels.net/index.php?showtopic=4263
This proves that Draynor’s signatures and goal sigs came out before JazzC’s. Therefor Leetscape lied. All you have said is wrong, you havn’t seen the Draynor code nor will you ever.
August 16th, 2007 at 11:00 pm
Actually, that doesn’t prove anything. All he says is that he released the source code with the same images because Clooth was annoying him about the fact that they look the same. Until you can prove that Draynor sigs are not run on the same source code as Jazz’s, I don’t see how that’s a bombshell.
August 17th, 2007 at 1:16 am
All he says is that he released the source code with the same images because Clooth was annoying him about the fact that they look the same.
That obviously means that Draynor’s was released first… If he made his code open source because Clooth was annoying him how could CLooth of copied him?
August 17th, 2007 at 11:12 am
Yes, but that does not prove that Draynor’s source code is not built off of any of the source code provided by JazzC. Is it not possible that perhaps with the release of the code that parts of it were added onto the existing code? Considering no one wants to show Draynor’s code (somewhat understandably, but no one at RSBANDB actually even wants the code as ours is more efficient in handling requests) there’s no way of proving or disproving.
August 17th, 2007 at 12:14 pm
You’re changing the story. You said the codes were the same, they are not. None of JazzC’s code was used, Clooth’s is much more efficient than you say and judging by JazzC’s coding standards (He may be a good coder), Clooth wouldn’t use anything like it, you also commented on the overlap on the goalsigs, if JazzC’s code was used that would apparently not happen.
August 17th, 2007 at 1:09 pm
The fact that you introduced that link is grounds to change the story, would you not agree? What I’m saying is that there is no way, short of providing both codes alongside each other, to prove that some of the code is not part of the Draynor code. Unless you told me to take your word for it, but since I don’t even know you, I cannot really do that.
August 17th, 2007 at 3:09 pm
I’m going too say 1 thing. Since when is this your business? It’s not. It’s between Draynor and LeetScape. Looks like you just want attention, bitch.
August 17th, 2007 at 5:07 pm
This is my blog and I can write whatever I want here. Since when is it your business to come here and insult me, you sad little freak.
August 17th, 2007 at 9:55 pm
‘Cause I’m from there. And you had no right too post that PM.
August 20th, 2007 at 11:41 pm
It was posted on your forums, lmfao.
August 21st, 2007 at 8:51 am
I prove you wrong, you delete one of my posts. You know you’re wrong. I know you’re wrong.
August 22nd, 2007 at 3:06 pm
Um, I don’t see where you proved me wrong and I don’t see where I deleted any of your posts. As long as you can write here in a civil manner, I keep your posts.
August 23rd, 2007 at 12:26 pm
Well the last word was “You lied” thats all i remember about it and nows its gone.
August 25th, 2007 at 10:10 pm
I don’t see any record of it in the moderation queue or Akisment spam catcher. If you’re sure that it got posted, then I don’t know what could’ve caused it but I did not delete it.
October 7th, 2007 at 7:48 am
Well, Hi!
I’m glad you think that way, just for your information, Jazz-the-idiot was the first one to copy my goal signature design, so you shouldn’t start spreading rumors about bullshit like this.
So please, stop talking bullshit when you don’t know all the facts.
Thanks.
October 7th, 2007 at 5:15 pm
I really think that it is a sad day when people who can’t write their own code have to result to profanity and other grade 6 level of thinking in their thoughts and comments.
I suggest that you get a real job, perhaps then you wouldn’t be gaming so much and will be too tired from working and see how making this kind of little kiddie bull shit remarks, taunting, and other uninciteful/thoughtful remarks will soon seem so insignificant that you will stop!
October 8th, 2007 at 1:31 am
Omg, I got the king retard of Draynor to visit this puny little blog?
October 8th, 2007 at 3:02 am
CLOOOTH CLOOOOOOOOOOOOTH CLOOOOTH
I think you’re a lesbian. ARE YOU A LESBIAN CLOOTH?? DO YOU FANCY MY MUMMY?!
CAUSE IF YOU DO SO HELP ME I WILL STEP ON YOUR NEW SHINY CLOOTH SHOES.
Anywho, don’t you worry about this goal sig trouble. I’ll tell you what i know a great place that has the best designs, you can all use sigs (but please don’t steal these ones you ass)from here:
http://www.rsbandb.com
Good day you sexy bit of cloth you.
p.s CAN YOU UNBAN MY ACCOUNT, I DON’T THINK A HAIRY NIPPLE IS BANNABLE
October 22nd, 2007 at 1:07 am
ROFLMAO!
It’s official. Draynor.net fail.
We post a MATURE argument on their about us “feedback” subforum about this war, and all we do is get flamed.
Then, those shit for brains come and flame on OUR forums, saying LSK has a keylogger, we stole their signatures and all this crap.
I believe that Draynor.net is SHIT, and anyone who uses it is also SHIT.
http://www.leetscape.com + rsbandb.com = UNSTOPPABLEEEEE!
October 27th, 2007 at 2:48 am
Shaking, if you’ll excuse me I have to lol.
November 6th, 2007 at 4:04 pm
LeetScape, just admit you stole out signatures. What does RSBANDB have to do with this u fucktard.
November 8th, 2007 at 1:02 pm
Leetscape didn’t steal the signatures, get over it..get over it..get over it..this post is MONTHS old.
December 1st, 2007 at 11:28 pm
Why don’t you guys (LeetScape) go to hell and admit that you stole our signatures? Just go fuck a cow or eat a cock you fucking hoebrains and fucktards.
December 2nd, 2007 at 9:12 pm
Ironic.
Look up “goal sig” in Google. Then look up “goal sigs”. Notice something humorous?